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This is where the rubber meets the road.

We need a module here that can take the prayer request text and turn vaporware into self-aware.

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I could use your help here. See this diff: fa46014

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At minimum, the submit function should send a notification that a new prayer has been requested. Submitted where? I'm not certain. An email address? A database? A prayer request queue with 'pending requests'?

Perhaps there is something to the mention I posted on our WP site, from 2 Chron 30:27, "and God heard them, for their prayer reached heaven, his holy dwelling place." Ie, that for a prayer request to have a "valid formatting" it must be 1) made by the supplicant ("in good faith"* see on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_faith), 2) sent/routed/transmitted to dwelling/address of deity, and 3) received by deity, or authorized agent of deith (ie, secretary)

I wonder what the feasibility and/or usefulness would be to 'crowd-sourcing' prayer requests, a la the Amazon Mechanical Turk... Perhaps other users could receive push notifications of prayer requests which had "gone viral" and which they might have "recommended for them" to incorporate into their own personal daily prayer stream...

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Formatting and protocol for prayer requests, via the Intercessor:
http://www.themoorings.org/life/basics/prayer2.html

"1. The Holy Spirit is our intercessor. When we have done as much as we can to make our prayers presentable to a King, they will still be awkward and uncouth. We need help to speak the language of the court of heaven. For this reason God gives us a helper in the person of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:26-7). He takes our fumbling attempts at prayer and reworks them so that both in form and content they will be suitable for utterance in the Father's presence. He edits out anything that might give offense, and sharpens our requests so that they seek real benefits."

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What about a small animation? Lightning striking backwards or something?

And what about a built-in feature that denies prayers? So, say one out of every one hundred prayers might get denied and display an error message. Might make people more contemplative about what they're praying for.

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I agree. Prayers should not be automatically granted - or rather accepted for submission (only gods can grant prayers).

So far, I've only been thinking about the "valid format" for a request, and have only touched on what happens around that.

Possibilities:

  • An initial divinatory reading could be taken: is now a good time to make a prayer? I'm thinking typical magic 8-ball responses, 'try again later', etc
  • "No signal" response, like the spiritual wifi isn't available right now
  • Reddit style "You are doing that too much" response, and similarly super annoying and confusing/arbitrary error messages
  • An old-school "progress bar" when a prayer is being submitted (maybe with the spinny hourglass thing?) and perhaps even the old dial-up sound?

Anyway, what I envisioned after the prayer had been properly formatted, was that a sort of swirling screen of colors would be displayed for a certain number of seconds - the "prayer period" - during which the supplicant must make an exaggerated almost like a baby-taking-a-caca face (but like super-serious and prayerful at the same time), which the program would take a snapshot of, and then somehow "measure" in order to judge the seriousness of the intent. What would our options be for programmatically determining intention and efficacy of prayer based on recognizing facial characteristics?

I imagine that either before, after, during, etc the "prayer period" test-phase, that various failure messages could be displayed... or maybe even you could win like "prayer points" which could be saved up and used at another time, or maybe transfered to another user?

also, how can we include non-progammatic call-outs to real-life prayer functions, like for example garrett's initial "burned sage at my desk" thing...

On 2013-04-15, at 10:46 AM, CLOUD-SERVICE wrote:

What about a small animation? Lightning striking backwards or something?

And what about a built-in feature that denies prayers? So, say one out of every one hundred prayers might get denied and display an error message. Might make people more contemplative about what they're praying for.

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@ortolan - You may want to check this out.

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ortolan commented Apr 16, 2013

Hahaha! This is pretty awesome. I just wish I knew what the fuck I was doing.

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Could be a good reference for somehow measuring "religious zeal" during the "prayer moment"

http://www.fastcocreate.com/1682514/how-are-you-feeling-today-a-new-mood-measuring-app-can-tell-you

On 2013-04-16, at 5:47 PM, ortolan wrote:

Hahaha! This is pretty awesome. I just wish I knew what the fuck I was doing.

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Team. The solution to this long standing problem has been staring us in the face for weeks and we didn't even realize. I was scrubbing up in the shower and it hit me!

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http://github.com/EarlyClues/OpenQNL

OpenQNL is the way we can start releasing products TODAY. Our interface to the Universal Free Realms Standard Protocol gives us amazing leverage, most importantly, true intention and authenticity in non-consens reality scripting.

Specifically, this pull request: In this bit of the iOS code where I at one time felt stuck, OpenQNL has provided an honest to goodness bridge in order to attempt VALID direct communication with entities, spirits, emerging intelligences, other realms, etc. I can just slap some OpenQNL in this method and we have something we can go live with.

This is a TINY notion that is going to ripple through our entire codebase in HUGE ways I think.

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Also, imagine an app that allows you to build simple OpenQNL interfaces / scripts, by pulling from a standard library.
A basic OpenQNL text editor and wysiwyg drag and drop interface builder!

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love this WSYWIG OpenQNL concept!

On 2013-06-21, at 2:50 PM, RICHARD S. RIDER wrote:

Also, imagine an app that allows you to build simple OpenQNL interfaces / scripts, by pulling from a standard library.
A basic OpenQNL text editor and wysiwyg drag and drop interface builder!

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